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ANG Pilot's avatar

During the days of slavery, slaveowners relied on overseers to keep their slaves in line - and many of those overseers were fellow slaves.

We see the same thing today. So called black "leaders" are the new overseers whose job is to keep their people on the Democrat plantation. It's sad. White people aren't the ones holding down black folks, it's black "leaders" and black people themselves.

Meanwhile, the handful of white billionaires who control the Democrat Party sow racial discord and use black folks as pawns in order to exert their control over this country and our politics.

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Christopher Arnell's avatar

Great points! When will people wake up?

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KB0679's avatar

We're very much awake, but why do you think we'd take seriously people who are all too eager to use stock Republican "plantation" language to describe Black voting behavior, particularly when they have nothing more to offer beyond criticism of such behavior? We can see this precisely for what it is: an effort to dissuade us from voting altogether as opposed to an appeal to persuade us to vote differently. Black conservative Democrats are just as turned off by this rhetoric as the rest of us. When you can't even be bothered to make genuine, respectful overtures to capture the low-hanging fruit among us, your motives become all but crystal clear to us--especially when you'll simply continue to insist that we're just too dumb to get it.

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"The use of the word 'plantation' to describe the relationship between black Americans and their political patrons is an unfortunate staple of contemporary rhetoric...The plantation rhetoric is distasteful for the same reason that facile Nazi tropes should be verboten: Some instances of evil are unique, and using them as a handy cudgel in every disagreement dilutes their emotional potency...When black critics use plantation rhetoric, it is repugnant; when white critics use plantation rhetoric, it is repugnant and condescending.

It is also a marker of sloppy thinking. The conservative plantation theory holds that African Americans support the Democratic party in exchange for welfare benefits and other handouts, that the Democratic party cultivates black welfare dependency in order to keep black voters firmly in their camp, and that the liberal establishment through either incompetence or cynical calculation frustrates the aspirations of black Americans in critical areas such as education, family life, crime, and economic mobility...

If Democrats were buying votes with welfare benefits, one would expect support for the Democratic party to be less pronounced among high-income blacks and more pronounced among low-income whites. The opposite is the case. Wealthy African Americans, who have no financial stake in welfare benefits other than being taxed to pay for them, are politically very similar to less wealthy African Americans. By some measures, wealthy blacks are more liberal than poor blacks...

Across income groups, African Americans are on balance less enthusiastic about free-market economic policies than are Anglo Americans; there is a rich tradition of entrepreneurship and self-improvement in black culture, but that does not translate into sympathy with the traditional conservative rhetoric on these subjects...

It is not surprising that blacks have less faith in the productive and transformative power of the free-market economy than do whites...

Black Americans were for some centuries treated as an economic commodity themselves and were systematically excluded from full participation in the economy for generations after that. As horrific as slavery is, it may in fact be the latter experience that has undercut African Americans’ faith in capitalism. Slavery is an alien experience, but being passed over for a job or a contract, or being denied a loan, and suspecting that one’s race has something to do with the fact, is not ancient history...

That African Americans’ attitudes toward economic issues are strongly influenced by their historical experience of economic exclusion is consistent with other aspects of black life beyond political-party affiliation...

Conservatives routinely generalize our own economic confidence, assuming that it is shared by the general public, with catastrophic political consequences...

And that is what the plantation theory gets wrong. Democrats are not buying black votes with welfare benefits. Democrats appeal to blacks, to other minority groups, and — most significant — to women with rhetoric and policies that promise the mitigation of risk...

[B]londe ladies and golf-tanned Caucasian gentlemen on Fox News probably should not be engaging in loose talk about plantations — if not as a matter of good taste, then because it leads to erroneous thinking."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/07/plantation-theory-kevin-d-williamson/

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ANG Pilot's avatar

Respectfully, I stand by my previous comment.

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KB0679's avatar
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"I insist on calling my fellow citizens of African descent who vote for Democrats plantation slaves...respectfully of course."

Although this is pretty much what I expected, the shamelessness of such repugnance is still something to behold. And then there's the accompanying cognitive dissonance required to stand by that assertion *and* also deny that such rhetoric, which is quite the common refrain among Republicans, plays no role whatsoever in Black Americans' voting behavior. And yet your slavish commitment to the narrative renders you...emancipated?

Extend this sort of rhetoric to the very base of the GOP itself, which you are so aptly demonstrating, and Sen. Tim Scott has hit the bullseye: https://www.scott.senate.gov/newsroom/news-coverage/tim-scott-why-are-republicans-accused-of-racism-because-were-silent-on-things-like-this/

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ANG Pilot's avatar

I tried to be respectful, now blow it out your ass you arrogant jerk.

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KB0679's avatar

Your comment is disrespectful to an entire population of Americans, and I'm sure that's not lost on you. Of course you have every right to voice that opinion just as I have the right to call it for what it is. Why not just own it?

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ANG Pilot's avatar

See my immediate, previous reply to you. From now on, you're talking to yourself.

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KB0679's avatar

"Black Americans in the United States (US), who have experienced disproportionately higher rates of COVID-19-related illness and death since the pandemic began, have consistently been vaccinated at lower rates...

As of July 6, 2022, these rates of vaccination have shown to be similar to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports of adults who have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, with 59% for Black adults when compared to 87% for Asian adults, 67% for Hispanic adults, and 65% for White adults...

Many of the same issues that initially led to slower vaccination among Black adults exist, contributing to the consistently lagged booster rates, including high levels of vaccine hesitancy, concerns about safety, and deep-seated distrust of the medical system...

A study reported that vaccine hesitancy was higher among African Americans than any other race/ethnic groups that contribute to lower vaccination uptake...

An overall mistrust in the medical establishment was identified as a major barrier in each of the articles chosen for this review. This absence of trust from Black Americans comes from a long history of abuse and exploitation by medical entities...

Black Americans revealed not trusting the safety and efficacy of the vaccine based on the lack of comprehensive diversity represented in the clinical trials...

Black Americans believe that clinical trials reward pharmaceutical companies who, in turn, do not reciprocate benefits back into the community...

Mistrust in healthcare systems, government agencies, timelines for research development, social media content, and safety and efficacy of the vaccine itself continues to be among the top discussions for those who choose not to vaccinate."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9734369/

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