Charlie Kirk's murder could be just as it appears to be, the act of a depraved transexual. However, the current available evidence is a bit too obvious. I am inclined to ignore all of the current theories, including yours Chris, as much as I respect your ideas and views. I have lived too long and seen too many early conclusions turned on their heads to come to one that fits my current preference so well. I want to see the evidence. The shell casings with their various epithets, etc., are too much like an earlier case. There is something that rings a bit suspicious to me. I can certainly wait a little longer to see how this unfolds. The internet and podcasts thrive on pushing a narrative. I don't like narratives. I like facts. I will therefore await the unfolding of this particular drama and keep my powder dry.
That shot seems pretty tough though, 175 meters or so, light wind, compensating for elevation, etc.
Also, if this was just some weird kid, which I don't buy, it has to also mess with your aim when you're lying there about to kill a human being. That is a tough shot even with a scope.
The breathing, the squeeze, windage, elevation, distance, nerves, and movement. Only someone who has done this before does it this well with one shot.
Think about how many shootings happen where the shooter is very close, like 25 feet, and still misses.
There are a number of unknowns and knowns that seem to be a set up. First, do we know if the rifle was scoped. With a scoped rifle an experienced shooter could likely make that shot. Had he been aiming for the chest it may be a bit high. If it was a head shot it went a bit low. It seems unlikely he was aiming for the neck. That is too small a target. Also, why did he drop the rifle and leave it with evidence all over it according to reports, hand and finger prints unwiped? As I mentioned the markings on the shell cases implies either a Mangioni copycat or someone wanting to look like one. There is far too little known to make any assumptions about the politics or motivations of this shooter. I prefer to wait for further discovery.
Yes, it all seems so contrived, doesn’t it? I’m applying the “48-hour Rule” where things will hopefully calm down and we have real answers. Too much chaos out there right now.
We now know that the shooter was, in fact, the 22-year old son of a police officer. Not a great deal has been put out there, but as a conservative whose own son has been damaged by the nightmare of Seattle Public Schools leftism, I know that this kid's father had no chance of keeping his kid from being warped by the left. It is time to shut down these Jacobins. The left is responsible for a remarkable amount of violence while claiming that it is the right, specifically January 6th, that is the cause. They ignored the riots that preceded that event, and the fact that on January 6th the only fatality was an unarmed young woman shot by a police officer. This, of course, ignores that incredible number of casualties and deaths that occurred in the riots of Antifa and BLM.
Yeah, I am fully comfortable now accepting all of the statements made prematurely, but which have now proven to be somewhat prophetic. My apologies to any who might have been taken aback by my wanting more proof before believing.
That is what is interesting about all this. We can come together online, discuss our thoughts, share what we know and might know, analyze the media, and by the end of the day, we can be friends. That is how it's supposed to be. :-)
I still have a hard time trusting all this, though. It's just too clean.
Charlie Kirk's murder could be just as it appears to be, the act of a depraved transexual. However, the current available evidence is a bit too obvious. I am inclined to ignore all of the current theories, including yours Chris, as much as I respect your ideas and views. I have lived too long and seen too many early conclusions turned on their heads to come to one that fits my current preference so well. I want to see the evidence. The shell casings with their various epithets, etc., are too much like an earlier case. There is something that rings a bit suspicious to me. I can certainly wait a little longer to see how this unfolds. The internet and podcasts thrive on pushing a narrative. I don't like narratives. I like facts. I will therefore await the unfolding of this particular drama and keep my powder dry.
That shot seems pretty tough though, 175 meters or so, light wind, compensating for elevation, etc.
Also, if this was just some weird kid, which I don't buy, it has to also mess with your aim when you're lying there about to kill a human being. That is a tough shot even with a scope.
The breathing, the squeeze, windage, elevation, distance, nerves, and movement. Only someone who has done this before does it this well with one shot.
Think about how many shootings happen where the shooter is very close, like 25 feet, and still misses.
There are a number of unknowns and knowns that seem to be a set up. First, do we know if the rifle was scoped. With a scoped rifle an experienced shooter could likely make that shot. Had he been aiming for the chest it may be a bit high. If it was a head shot it went a bit low. It seems unlikely he was aiming for the neck. That is too small a target. Also, why did he drop the rifle and leave it with evidence all over it according to reports, hand and finger prints unwiped? As I mentioned the markings on the shell cases implies either a Mangioni copycat or someone wanting to look like one. There is far too little known to make any assumptions about the politics or motivations of this shooter. I prefer to wait for further discovery.
Yes, it all seems so contrived, doesn’t it? I’m applying the “48-hour Rule” where things will hopefully calm down and we have real answers. Too much chaos out there right now.
I don't think we will get real answers.
That has certainly been the pattern with the last two who shot at Trump.
I have jumped on too many bandwagons on the internet over the years and gotten burned. That 48 hour rule sounds good to me.
I hear ya.
We now know that the shooter was, in fact, the 22-year old son of a police officer. Not a great deal has been put out there, but as a conservative whose own son has been damaged by the nightmare of Seattle Public Schools leftism, I know that this kid's father had no chance of keeping his kid from being warped by the left. It is time to shut down these Jacobins. The left is responsible for a remarkable amount of violence while claiming that it is the right, specifically January 6th, that is the cause. They ignored the riots that preceded that event, and the fact that on January 6th the only fatality was an unarmed young woman shot by a police officer. This, of course, ignores that incredible number of casualties and deaths that occurred in the riots of Antifa and BLM.
Yeah, I am fully comfortable now accepting all of the statements made prematurely, but which have now proven to be somewhat prophetic. My apologies to any who might have been taken aback by my wanting more proof before believing.
Agreed.
That is what is interesting about all this. We can come together online, discuss our thoughts, share what we know and might know, analyze the media, and by the end of the day, we can be friends. That is how it's supposed to be. :-)
I still have a hard time trusting all this, though. It's just too clean.